The God Culture: Your Spirit Can't Die

Timothy Jay Schwab who is The God Culture has some outright heretical teachings about sin and its effects on man. He says our spirits cannot die because we sin. Instead he teaches the heretical and unbiblical of annihilations which means our spirits will be burned up once and for all on judgement day to exist no more for ever. 


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13:27 Your spirit can't die because you sin. Now, you can eternally set your position that you will be in hell, that you will die, yes, but that's not what the Bible does here. It's not playing these word games of dumb scholars that just don't get it. It doesn't do it. So, spirits don't die not unless they are consumed with eternal fire period. That is the only measure in scripture for so-called spiritual death. We do not die spiritually when we sin. Our spirits can't die. It can set it up sure but the Bible doesn't do that there and that is not what Yahuah is saying to Adam. They have rephrased Yahuah's words changing the Bible. It is a lie.

There are problems with that interpretation. First of all the Bible does say Adam would die in "the day" he ate from the tree."  

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

But it is only in Jubilees that we read an interpretation about dying in the day you eat from the tree.  Any story that comes from Jubilees is apocryphal nonsense that is rightfully ignored though Timothy Jay Schwab eats it up like a pile of tasty dung. That book is not and never will be scripture.  But even so Jubilees says this:

4:29 And at the close of the nineteenth jubilee, in the seventh week in the sixth year thereof, Adam died, and all his sons buried him in the land of his creation, and he was the first to be buried in the earth. 

30  And he lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: 'On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die.' For this reason he did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it.

Are we really supposed to believe that when God said you will die the day you eat from the tree he really meant you will die within a thousand years? What kind of threat or punishment is that? How does it apply to the rest of humanity who fell in Adam and are subject to the same penalty? The punishment happened then and there. Adam died. He became spiritually dead and separated from communion with God and so are we.

Secondly, the Bible says we are all spiritually dead in numerous passages. I will only list a few.
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Obviously our soul is not dead as in lifeless. We are alive. But as the Bible says, we are dead in our sins while we live until Jesus Christ quickens us by the Holy Spirit. What exactly about us is dead? What did Jesus mean when he said let the dead bury their dead?

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

How can someone dead do anything? Because Jesus means they are spiritually dead and are walking after the things of this world rather than seeking first the kingdom of God and His righteousness. To say that our spirits cannot die because we sin is more heretical nonsense from Timothy Jay Schwab who is The God Culture.

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  1. Our spirits are in Sheol until the messiah comes. Demons prove spirits don’t die.

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    1. The Bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. So no, the spirits of Christians are not in Sheol they are with Jesus Christ.

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    2. Jesus Christ is in Sheol

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    3. Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

      2 Cor 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

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    4. The entire Trinity is in Sheol

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  2. If Jesus Christ declared Himself the first and the last and the last Adam, yet you promote the original sin heresy!!! If Adam was formed in the image of God then why is it everything else God made is in the image of what He formed?! The Septuagint translators chose to render a title for Jesus Son of Adam over Son of Man for a reason! Jews gave Elohim the title “Ab Adm” (Father Adam!)

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    1. The Bible says Jesus was made like us in all things except he was without sin. The Bible also says all men are dead in sin unless they are born again through Jesus Christ.

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    2. Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

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    3. For we have NOT an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of OUR infirmities (i.e. infirmities of men not God)

      infirmities
      /ĭn-fûr′mĭ-tē/

      Plural form of infirmity
      noun
      The condition of being infirm, often as associated with old age; weakness or frailty.
      "the infirmity brought on by the disease."
      A bodily ailment or weakness.
      "complained about his infirmities."
      Weakness of resolution or character.
      "the infirmity inherent in human nature."
      The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik

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    4. The next chapter…

      1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:

      2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.

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