The God Culture: Revelation 12 Series, Part 2: Ding-Dong, the Man-Child's Born! Which Man-Child? The 144,000!

This is part 2 of my review of The God Culture's Revelation 12 series. Part 1 can be found here. After identifying the woman in Revelation 12 as the nation of Israel, which means Filipinos, Negroes, and Kurds, Tim goes on to identify the man-child to whom she gives birth in heaven.

Tim compares the symbolism in Revelation 2, 14, 7, and 12 and comes to the conclusion that the man child is the 144,000. His tedious exegesis is summed up in these two charts.

Revelation 12: Who Is The Man Child? Solomon's Gold Series 13C

If you are not familiar with Revelation the 144,000 is a group composed of 12,000 members of each of the twelve tribes of Israel. The event of their sealing is recorded in chapter 7. However the tribe of Dan is missing. That is a huge problem for Timothy because he is interpreting this as being literal.

Tim recognizes Dan is not among the 144,000 and gives the reason as being that they rejected their inheritance and brought in idolatry. But so what? If these 144,000 are from the literal physical bloodline of Jacob then Dan must be included. 

40:48 Only Dan is missing and that is likely because of his rebellion rejecting the land he was given as an inheritance. He didn't like it so he went and lived somewhere else and along the way he picked up and introduced false idols into northern Israel after they entered the kingdom. So anyway there are actually 13 tribes technically because Joseph's two sons are each a tribe Ephraim and Manasseh.

That is not true. There are not technically 13 tribes and no one says such a thing. Joseph was given a double portion in Israel and his sons were counted as half-tribes.

And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.

Deuteronomy 3:13

The likely reason Dan is not included in this list is because Dan means judgement and God's people will not be judged by Him the way everyone else will. Again Tim misses all this because he absolutely rejects that the Church is Israel and Israel is the Church. Filipinos, Negroes, and Kurds as such do not matter even if they were actual lost tribes.

Cutting right to the chase Tim's doctrine is that 144,000 pregnant women, this is the women mentioned who Tim said was also Israel, will be taken to heaven, likely on Pentecost, and give birth to 144,000 babies in the throne room of God as a first fruits offering. That means 144,000 women will have their legs spread, will scream in pain, and will excrete blood sweat and tears as they birth their children. What a disgusting picture. Can you imagine 144,000 naked or half-naked women in the throne room of God giving birth and everything that entails? How vile and abhorrent!

Again all this contradicts Tim's assertion that there is no allegory in Revelation 12. It also contradicts his previous interpretation that the woman is the nation of Israel. Now the singular woman who gives birth has two identities as the nation of Israel and as 144,000 women while the singular man-child has multiple identities as 144,000 babies.

Finally when all the travailing is over there will be the sound of 144,000 mewling infants piercing the ears of the angels and elders who surround God's throne. What a discordant cacophony will be heard in the throne room of God Himself! Tim goes on further to say these children are not sinners and will never live on earth.

60:38 They are virgins pure, have no guile in their mouth, and without fault all. Not consistent with us flawed men on earth in which Paul says Romans 3:23 all have sinned and fallen short the glory of God. Not the hundred and forty-four thousand. They have not.

This is a denial of original sin or whatever you want to call it. Sinful women give birth to sinful children. These children being humans are of necessity sinners in need of redemption through the blood of Christ. Tim denies this. In the next video he says the following:

https://youtu.be/E-RNcBdn-GM?t=460

7:40  We concluded the woman who appears in heaven is Israel. Again, not modern Israel but the true tribes of Israel. And the manchild she births in heaven is the hundred and forty-four thousand, her first fruit offering to Yahuah and Yahusha which again is what this is as she births the child there in heaven and Yahuah accepts the offering bringing them to his throne room to protect them. Look up the word redeem in Greek and you will find that it is a buying or selling that takes place in the market. 

These 144,000, this man child, male child is being offered as a first fruits offering to Yahuah and Yahusha. That is a basically same thing market transaction. Just as Yahusha redeems us from our sins right? However if you really look at this when it says redeem this is actually a perfect fit to the actual definition of the word. These children do not face death but this is very similar to the sort of Abraham and Isaac if you think about it.

First of all reducing our salvation through Christ to a "market transaction" is a horrid oversimplification of salvation which includes but is not limited to forgiveness of sins, union with Christ, Christ in us, and us becoming partakers of the divine nature. It also contradicts his previous soteriological statement "the law is what redeems us." Now we are saved through a market transaction. What need to keep the law then? And on what basis can he say our salvation can be lost? Will God get a refund on his purchase? It is absurd.

Second there is nothing about redemption anywhere in Revelation 12. The word does not appear once nor does the concept. It is truly bizarre that Tim would claim there are 144,000 humans who do not need to be redeemed by the blood of Christ.

Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace

This doctrine betrays a false anthropology. Does Tim believe men are good? That a disposition to sin is not inborn but wholly learned? In previous videos he applies Genesis 6:5, which is the classic text about man's sinfulness, to the nephilim and not to men. Either way it is pure heresy on his part to espouse this doctrine that 144,000 humans do not need redemption through the blood of Christ. Tim knows nothing of the depth of sin which caused Paul to write that we are all by nature the children of wrath.

Thus far Tim has identified the woman and the man child. Next he will identify the land to which the woman is sent after she gives birth to the man child. 

Spoiler alert: It's the Philippines!

Revelation 12: The Land That Protects The Woman. Solomon's Gold Series 13D

There are a lot of symbols to interpret when identifying this land so Tim splits this section into two videos. This first video mostly deals with the sun symbols while the next video deals with the moon and star symbols.

He starts the video off by taking great pains to connect Revelation 12 with Joseph's dream in Genesis 37 because it has a lot of the same imagery: sun, moon, and stars. Joseph's dream is a prophecy of his becoming ruler of Egypt and his family bowing down to him. It has nothing to do with Revelation whatsoever. Aside from the symbols Tim gives no justification why the connection is proper. But Tim makes the connection rather slyly saying that the sun is Jacob which means Israel. The Philippines is a lost tribe land and it has a lot of connections with the sun. He then shows us and explains much of the sun symbology surrounding the Philippines.

He starts off by explaining the allegedly prophetic symbolism of the Philippines flag and the words of the national anthem.

https://youtu.be/E-RNcBdn-GM?t=1737

28:56 So let's look here at the national flag of the Philippines. Notice the symbol of the Sun. Are there other countries that have such? Certainly there are many in fact but take a look at their national anthem Lupang Hinirang or chosen land, interesting. Land of the morning. Why? Well the Sun rises in the east and has been considered the Far East as far back as history goes really. The Orient is well recorded, even Japan is also known as the Land of the Rising Sun and it's it's parallel to the Philippines but it is not a Lost Tribe territory thus it does not fit this. But the Philippines is. 

Now read the next line though very odd, Child of the Sun returning. Wow! The first time we saw that we thought well it must be Sun God symbology yet in lieu of these findings in Revelation 12 perhaps not.

Now Tim is interpreting the Bible through Freemasonic symbology! The flag of the Philippines was designed by Emilio Aguinaldo and is replete with masonic symbology

The Hong Kong designed flag that Aguinaldo brought with him from his exile on board the US dispatch boat McCullock, and which became the official flag of the first Philippine Republic, consisted of two horizontal stripes, blue on top and red below. It had a white equilateral triangle at the hoist that is smaller than that in our flag today. Within the triangle, at its center, a mythological sun was depicted with eyebrows, eyes, nose and mouth in black, bearing eight rays without any minor ray for each, and three five-pointed stars, one at each angle of the triangle. All these devices were in gold or yellow colour.

Among the more credible assertions relied upon to establish the tie between masonry and the flag are the following:

In October 1899, Ambrocio Flores, Grand Master of the Gran Consejo Regional and at that time a general in the army of Aguinaldo, wrote letters to the Grand Lodges in the United States appealing to them to employ their influence to help the fledgling Philippine Republic. In these letters he compared the Philippine flag to the masonic banner saying, "...this national flag resembles closely our masonic banner starting from its triangular quarter to the prominent central position of its resplendent sun surrounded in its triangular position by three 5-pointed stars. Even in its three coloured background, it is the spitting image of our Venerable Institution’s banner so that when you see it in any part of the world, waving with honor amidst the flags of other nations and acknowledged by these nations, let us hope that with this flag, and through it, our common parent, Freemasonry will likewise be so honored."

In his beautiful Grand Oration pronounced in 1928, historian Teodoro M. Kalaw, Sr., uttered these words: "And the triangle appearing on the Philippine flag, the loftiest symbolism of the struggles of the Filipino people, was put there, according to President Aguinaldo, as an homage to Freemasonry."

https://freemasonry.bcy.ca/symbolism/philippine_flag.html

The original flag designed by Freemason Aguinaldo had a sun with a face on it inside a white triangle and the design was a tribute to the lodge which he belonged! In fact the entire independence movement was freemasonic in origin and spirit. Even the national anthem came about due to the Freemasons. From The Cabletow, the official magazine of Philippine Freemasonry:

https://grandlodge.ph/sites/default/files/cabletow/Cabletow2005-1.pdf

The untold story of our National Anthem is that the music and the lyrics came into being because of the inspiration and prompting of Freemasons.

The whole story can be read at the link. Remember in the first post where I noted that Tim rejects the age of Christ as being 33 because it is Freemasonic in origin? Well here he is basing much of his interpretation of Revelation 12 on symbols rooted in and originating from Philippine Freemasonry! Is he really this dumb? Yes, he is. Timothy Jay Schwab interpreting Bible prophecy through the lyrics of the Philippine national anthem is as irrational and insane as Charles Manson interpreting Bible prophecy through the lyrics of The Beatles' White Album!  In both cases it's Helter Skelter!

Hmm.  Interesting. Coincidence?

The woman, Israel, will fall from heaven to the Philippines. But she won't be free falling. She will be riding the on the wings of the great Philippine eagle.

25:11  We also know the dragon physically comes to earth after the war in heaven which is a physical war and he physically attacks the woman so this indeed plays out in a physical location on earth not in the universe nor anywhere else. This next one however is really no coincidence at all. 

When the dragon attacks the woman she is given two wings of a great Eagle that she might fly into the wilderness into her place. What is the greatest eagle on earth? Well when you see the word great it typically means the largest. What is the world's largest Eagle? Hmm. Prophecy also identifies a ravenous bird from the east in fact who rises in the last days and even the scripture they shall mount up with wings as Eagles actually appears right in the middle of a passage about the Isles of the east. Interesting. These are not arbitrary references. The largest and heaviest eagle on earth is the great Philippine eagle with a wingspan of about seven feet also known as the monkey eating eagle.

Elsewhere he is more clear and says:

13:54 It's time to read scripture as it is and allow scripture interpret Scripture and steer away from strange doctrine which has no basis in logic nor scripture. Satan and his angels are cast to the earth and he is angry because he knows he has lost access to heaven and that his time is short because see he knows prophecy, again even if we don't. He immediately goes to attack the woman with a tsunami out of his mouth. Yes literally. He's a powerful angel in yes he can do so without it needing to be allegory. Of course he fails and the woman is saved and taken to the wilderness by the great eagle's wings the Philippine eagle that is the largest on earth.

https://youtu.be/G04VePmaTc4?t=834

This ridiculous scenario is straight out of The Hobbit!

Take note that Tim does not give any reason why the eagles' wings must mean a real eagle let alone the Philippine eagle. He simply makes that leap and expects us to follow. Is a Philippine eagle large enough and strong enough to carry a human being? And where do the 144,000 women meet these eagles?  In heaven?  In the sky as they fall? The Philippine eagle is an endangered species and there are less than 500 in existence!!

https://peregrinefund.org/explore-raptors-species/eagles/philippine-eagle

Why is it endangered?  Because despite being the national bird Filipinos hunt them down and destroy their habitat! It's not even the largest eagle on earth. The term "large" is vague to begin with. What does Tim mean by large? Wingspan? Weight? Talon size?

The Guinness Book of World Records says the world's largest eagle is the Steller's Sea Eagle. National Geographic says it's the Harpy eagle. Wikipedia says this about the Philippine eagle:

It is considered the largest of the extant eagles in the world in terms of length and wing surface, with  Steller's sea eagleand the harpy eagle being larger in terms of weight and bulk.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_eagle

Even Tim's source admits that the largeness of the eagle is relative to what is being measured!

“The term largest can have different meanings,” he said while pulling out and handling the specimens one by one like a delicate baby. “The Harpy Eagle maybe the largest in terms of bulk or weight, but the Philippine Eagle is the largest in terms of wingspan and height.” There you go—confirmation from no less than Dr. Kennedy!

https://haribon.org.ph/the-largest-eagle-in-the-world/

The author of this article makes the false conclusion that Dr. Kennedy has confirmed that the Philippine eagle is the largest when he has not done so. Dr. Kennedy only confirms that the Philippine eagle is the largest in terms of wingspan and height while the harpy eagle is largest by weight! Dr. Kennedy admits "largest" is a relative term and the author of this article, just like Timothy, ignores that fact.

The Haribon article was written in 2004. The National Geographic article was written in 2020. The Guinness world record was bestowed in 2001. It appears the Wikipedia article was written in 2002. The point is there is no consensus that the Philippine eagle is the largest eagle in the world. But none of that really matters because the whole scenario of 144,000 women falling from heaven and carried by 144,000 eagles to the Philippines is patently ludicrous!

The next post will conclude this review of The God Culture's Revelation 12 series by looking at the moon and star symbols surrounding the Philippines and identifying the dragon.

The God Culture: Revelation 12 Series, Part 1: Filipinos and Negroes and Kurds, Oh My!

 

"The elusive prophecies of Revelation have been an enigma to most for several centuries at least. It seems the more we get closer to modern times the more information we have lost regarding the understanding of biblical geography and prophecy. Many times we prove this many times over on this channel and so do others but are those days changing. Are the modern Dark Ages ending? Are we in the days of increasing knowledge as predicted by Daniel or, better, is all evil being exposed with the light of truth in our lifetime? We believe we are entering those days and we believe it is time to know how to interpret Revelation12."

So says Timothy Jay Schwab of the God Culture as he begins his interpretation of Revelation 12. Be warned! It is probably the most unique and imaginative exegesis of Revelation you will ever hear. According to Tim this chapter highlights the major role played by the Philippines and Filipinos in the end times. If you have not read this chapter blow the dust off your Bible and open it up or click this link.

There are seven videos in this series each exploring a different aspect of the symbology in Revelation 12. Those symbols include a woman, a man child, a land, and a dragon. Because it is such a long series I will necessarily have to divide this review into several parts. There will be three in total.

Revelation 12: Is Astrology To Be Used To Interpret Prophecy. Solomon's Gold Series 13A

The first video is less about Revelation 12 and more about Tim's epistemic and interpretive methods. It also serves as a rebuttal to the prophecy concerning September 23rd, 2017. How are we to interpret Revelation 12? Through astrology? No. Through the Bible of course. Scripture interprets scripture.

If Tim had only laid down that principle and said no more then there would be nothing else to comment on about this video. However Tim says many other things which further lay bare the interpretive methods he will be employing in the ensuing videos.

First of all he makes the claim that any perception of the constellations as being particular designs are a subjective connecting of the dots. They could be anything, even a television antenna.

9:42 Basically someone decided to connect the dots kind of like when we were children and yet well anyway you know in the night sky to form figures. But who did this and what figures did they draw and is there a connection between these supposed star patterns and yahuah god's interpretation of the sky or are we all basing our interpretation of Bible prophecy in modern times on a false system in the first place? 

For instance let's look at the constellation Virgo here is an illustration on a deck of constellation playing cards of Virgo so let's connect the dots on the right. Do they actually look like they form the figure of an angel? Perhaps can we look at it any other way kind of like when we look up at the clouds and the husband sees a girl but the wife sees a peanut. is it really much different for instance could it be a crab or I got it this is a prophecy in the sky of the rabbit ears TV antenna! Of course that’s silly and yes we do mean to mock because you can connect these dots thousands and millions and trillions of ways. In fact this is just cherry picking some of the stars within the constellation's star field.  You could probably form just about anything you want but, see, those who formed these patterns oh this is what they wanted. So the whole thing is subjective because it's a religion not a science.

Tim's claim that the designs of the constellations are subjective hooey "because it's a religion not a science" is very important to remember. I will be returning to this as I examine the claims made in other videos.

He then goes on to discuss an artifact which he claims is Babylonian and related to the Zoroastrian religion.

21:02 Here is a Babylonian cylinder seal dated approximately 6,000 years ago. No, we do not believe the date but ancient nevertheless from ancient Sumeria or Sumer Babylon. Whether the dating is 5500 years or 4,500 years or whatever it’s really old and precedes the days of Abraham and that's what is important as a marker here. These are basically Zoroastrian Magi who are astrologers yes astrology is part of their doctrine and yes they do look oddly familiar to rabbis don't they? Hmm. Not going to cover that in this video. 

We have zoomed in on the portion above the head of the astrologer. Does this look familiar to you? Are we looking at the origin of theories of the likes of Copernicus, Galileo etc thousands of years before they existed? How did they know 6,000 years ago or whatever that the Sun was center of the solar system with planets revolving around it and they even knew they were spheres balls? Hmm. Babylonian history does not generally support this as an empire-wide belief by the way so this is an elite secret society represented in this seal. This is their secret knowledge not that of the Babylonian people.

What a gross and ignorant misinterpretation of this seal. First of all it is Sumerian and not Babylonian. Secondly Zoroaster did not appear on the scene until around 600 BC which is over a thousand years after Abraham so his timeframe is off by a huge margin. Thirdly he bizarrely connects this seal with Copernicus and Galilieo and their heliocentrism calling it the secret knowledge of an elite secret society. Nothing he says about this seal is correct except that it is very old.

It would seem from the fact that Tim uses this seal coupled with his claim in other videos that Cain likely built Tenochtitlan that he is using Zechariah Sitchin as a source for his "research."  Zechariah Sitchin is wrong in all of his fantastic conclusions just like Tim yet he employs Sitchin's interpretation of the seal. It could be just a coincidence but perhaps not. A far more correct interpretation of this seal which incorporates all the images, not just the stars, plus the cuneiform inscriptions can be found here:

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/VA243seal.pdf

For five minutes Tim disparages heliocentrism claiming that the Bible teaches and the ancients taught a flat-earth yet he has the nerve to say that he is not advocating the flat-earth!

25:18 The Bible is clear that the ancients believed in basically a flat round disc with a dome ceiling the firmament set on pillars with four corners. Even now even science and history agree with that as the ancient cosmological belief system of the writers of the Bible and most of the world in fact all the way up until around say the 15, 1600s or so. However the most ancient of cults after the flood the, Babylonians, this secret society on the cylinder seal who were judged by Yahuwah God at the Tower of Babel, according to this cylinder seal already believed in heliocentrism, you know the Sun is the center of the solar system and sphere planets orbiting, thousands of years before modern science embraced this religious belief as fact. 

Now we are not weighing in on the Flat Earth debate. We are not a Flat Earth channel. Not one of our topics. But in ancient times that was the lay of the land as far as the ancients knew and don't let anyone tell you different. Our desire here is to be biblically correct and that is what matters and when you don't understand that fact then many times it's very easy to misinterpret the Bible. We're not saying which is correct but we are correcting history which is being misrepresented by some scholars even some from Hebrew University

How disingenuous. The Bible teaches a flat-earth, Tim wants to be biblically correct, yet Tim is not saying the earth is flat. Could he be more deceptive? If Tim wants to be biblically correct and the bible teaches a flat earth then he obviously believes in a flat earth. I have dealt with this issue elsewhere and proven that Timothy Jay Schwab is indeed a flat earther.

He then continues to discuss the constellations and what the Bible has to say about them. It should be pointed out that when Tim talks about using the Bible he does not mean what most everyone else means which is the Old Testament and the New Testament and perhaps the apocrypha. No. He means the Dead Sea Scrolls plus the New Testament.  If a book is in the OT but was not found at Qumran it is not scripture.  That is why he rejects Esther. Likewise if a book is not in the OT but was found at Qumran it is scripture. That is why he accepts Jubilees and Enoch as scripture. He does not only accept these books but he interprets the rest of the OT and NT through their pages. He has a few videos on this topic which I have already reviewed.

His discussion about the constellations in the Bible brings him to Job 38 where the Pleiades, Orion, Arcturus, and Mazzaroth are all mentioned. Tim says these are not actually constellations but imprisoned fallen watcher angels.

42:55 Job is not a reference to constellations by Yuhuah god when you read the entire passage. It is a reminder to Job of Yahuah God's strength and might from Yahuah himself in answer to Job's supplication. He is pointing out the watchers whom he imprisoned easily and challenges Job can any man free them Job knew the answer was no one could.

Tim comes to this conclusion by ignoring the entire context of Job 38 and a convoluted application of the book of Enoch. The context of this chapter is God rebuking Job asking him if he can control the activities of the heavens and the earth. This includes rain, snow, hail, the seas, the morning, and the course of the stars. The literal stars! Why would God break the context of his speech and start talking about wicked angels? It makes no sense. And it contradicts what Tim said earlier about constellation shapes being wholly subjective. Now these constellations are fallen watcher angels whom God imprisoned.

In the midst of his discussion about Job Tim says the following concerning the phrase "Sweet influences of the Pleiades" in Job 38:31

36:50 Someone's been toying around justifying astrology inserting Kabbalah and Babylonian doctrine into the word that's what's happening here.

Tim claims the Bible has been corrupted with Kabbalah and Babylonian doctrine. Someone has inserted lies into the text. God has not preserved his word after all. If that's true then what is the point of continuing to use the Bible? Tim has just confessed it is not a reliable text. He might as well abandon it.

Before ending this video Tim informs us that the following videos will be a revelation from the Holy Spirit which will blow our minds.

60:10 And the end of this video or this next video is going to unveil yet another revelation that blows our mind because we find the Philippines in Revelation 12 and we'll show we’ll show you. You need to see this. Let's read the rest of the chapter though and we'll give you our fresh interpretation as we believe the Holy Spirit has revealed. We admit we have never heard anything like this before but see if you agree and it makes sense and that it matches Scripture.

Tim ends this video by telling us that his interpretation of Revelation 12 is not something that springs from his own head but is a revelation from the Holy Spirit. But then he says "see if you agree and it makes sense." Asking people to test his revelation from the Holy Spirit as he does many times in the following videos negates any possibility that Tim has had an actual revelation from the Holy Spirit. Such a revelation should be accepted on its own authority. Isaiah, John the Baptist, Jesus, Moses, they all spake with authority and not with the wishy-washiness which Tim speaks. 

Oddly enough Tim will say later that he cannot prove his interpretation of Revelation 12 the same way he could prove his claims in his Solomon's Gold and Lost Tribes videos because it is prophecy and not geography. If his teaching is a revelation from the Holy Spirit then that is complete nonsense. Any genuine revelation from the Holy Spirit should not need qualifications or Tim's feeble attempts at proof.

We see Tim's foundation for interpreting Revelation 12 rests upon the same techniques as in his other videos. Misinterpreting history and artifacts, ignoring the context of the scriptures, relying on false scriptures, bizarre allegations of conspiracies to cover up truth, and unfounded connections between things. This is what Tim is going to build on. And he wants us to trust him? Of course not! That's why he says test if what he is saying is true or not.

In the second video of this series Tim reveals the identity of the woman in Revelation 12.

Revelation 12: Who Is The Woman? Solomon's Gold Series 13B

She is Israel. That interpretation is rather benign except one has to remember that when Tim talks about Israel he means Filipinos, Negroes, and Kurds. Those people groups form the lost tribes and constitute true Israel.

Filipinos and Negroes and Kurds, Oh my!

Another thing to keep in mind is that Tim says everything in this passage is "physical." There is no allegory here. The woman is a real woman. The man child is a real man child. The land is a real land and etc. The man child is also not Jesus because he is born in heaven while Jesus was born on earth.

29:51 Yahushua was born on earth and lived on earth for about thirty-nine years. No, not the Freemasonic magic number of 33 which does not fit scripture. We prove that in “When was Jesus born” and yes we can know the day, month, and year because Luke specifically identifies it and he is not wrong. 

Actually Luke says in chapter 3 that Jesus was 30 years old when he started his ministry and from the events in the Gospels we get a three year ministry. Ergo Christ died when he was thirty-three no matter what year he was born. We will be returning to Freemasonry later in part 2.

30:14 So this child is born and stays in heaven. He is physically a physical child or really children which we will prove out and the woman also and the dragon are real characters not euphemisms. The woman physically fled into the wilderness and was physically fed there and physically attacked by Satan with a physical tsunami a physical event which the earth opens up in swallows physically protecting the travailing woman. Protecting the tribes of Israel in the land prepared for them by Yahuah. Another physical land. It’s all there in this passage and it's not allegory in essence.

Except Tim interprets everything allegorically. The woman is actually the entire nation of Israel composed of Filipinos, Negroes, and Kurds and not a singular female human! The man child is really the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation 7 and 14. That means the woman is also 144,000 women who give birth to 144,000 children in the throne room of God! All of that will be explained in the next post.

At this place here I should take the time to point out that because Tim identifies Israel as being only literal bloodline descendants of Jacob he runs into a lot of problems. His foundation is false. The church is Israel and vice-versa. Stephen even calls the wandering nation of Israel the church in the wilderness.

Acts 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. 

38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Paul tells us in Galatians that it is Christ who is the true seed of Abraham and all the promises are fulfilled in him.  Seed as of one and not as of many writes Paul. Thus the church inherits all the promises made to Abraham because they are in Christ and are thus the true Israel.

The Christian Tradition vol 1, Jaroslav Pelikan

The church, therefore, was the inheritor of the promises and prerogatives of the Jews. "Just as Christ is Israel and Jacob, so we who have been quarried out from the bowels of Christ are the true Israelitic race," the "third Israel” spoken of in Isaiah. Likewise, the church was now "the synagogue of God," "those who believe in" Christ having become "one soul, and one synagogue, and one church." Not the old Israel, but the church had the right to call Abraham its father, to style itself "the chosen people," and to look forward to inheriting the promised land. No title for the church in early Christianity is more comprehensive than the term "the people of God," which originally meant "the new Israel" but gradually lost this connotation as the Christian claim to be the only true people of God no longer had to be substantiated. 

Tim does not believe any of that. For all his saying that gentiles can be grafted into Israel Tim is adamant that they remain separate entities.

39:05 So who are the two olive trees? Well they are the tribes of Israel the twelve tribes that's one olive tree and the second olive tree is the ekklesia of Messiah.

Two Witnesses of Revelation Explained. This Will Rock Your World. Ophir, Sheba, Tarshish

One tree is Israel and one tree is the Church. That is wholly anti-biblical which teaches that there is one body of Christ.  God only has one people, not two.

Like all of Tim's videos there is a lot going on and there is no way to cover it all. The main thing that needs to be understood from this video is that the woman is the nation of Israel aka the lost tribes which is composed solely of Filipinos, Negroes, and Kurds. This interpretation contradicts Tim's assertion that there is no allegory in this passage. The woman is an allegory for an entire nation and not a singular woman. Next we will look at the identity of the man-child whom she births in heaven.

If you are wondering how all this connects to the Philippines just wait. You'll see in the next post.

The God Culture: Soul and Spirit: Where Do We Go When We Die? Part 3

Timothy Jay Schwab of The God Culture's series about the afterlife is pretty massive and cannot really be distilled into a few articles but I shall do my best. The last article dismissed three of the videos in his series as totally irrelevant. In this article I want to look at his definition of soul and spirit. Spoiler alert: they are the same. But are they really? 

Tim is very straightforward about the nature of man. Man is composed of body and spirit only.

What Is The Soul? Where Do We Go? Part 6 Answers In 2nd Esdras 23F 

10:11 We are not triune beings in either sense. We are made of really a body and a spirit which is the soul in many scriptures equated and we're going to show you so don't worry. The two are interchanged and we'll show you.

20:34 So, the spirit and soul cannot be separated into a definition of a triune being nor can they be separated in any way. They are the same in representation, see? The soul as an essence, well, that's direct new age occult, uh, basically, uh, it, it, I mean it could be better than that because it's the breath of life, okay? You could, you know, you could go there but even the word as an essence, I mean that's it just sounds so new agey it's just weird to look at that in the middle of a definition here. 

What an incredibly stupid statement. Tim has no idea what accidents and essences are. They have nothing to do with the new age or the occult. This is incredibly dumb. 

What is the soul? It is our life force.

22:40 Our soul is our being, our life force, our spirit, indeed.

Tim's main argument is that the term translated soul and spirit is general and means a multitude of things. Therefore you cannot pin down any one definition. While that is not necessarily false the fact is that simply because the word translated heart, soul, mind, spirit, and understanding can mean a wide variety of things does not mean the that they are all the same and interchangeable. It's really odd that Tim, in this video only covers ONE GREEK WORD which is G5990, psyche.

Actually it's not odd because Tim's modus operandi is to throw a lot at his listeners to make it seem as if he has covered everything when in fact he has barely scratched the surface and twisted the information he is using. There are three other words he did not cover, dianoia, nous, and cardia. They are translated mind, understanding, and heart respectively. Matthew 22:37 would then read as follows:

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy KARDIA, and with all thy PSYCHE, and with all thy DIANOIA.

Why does Jesus use three different words if they all mean the same thing? It would be as silly as saying, "I am going for a drive in my car, horseless carriage, and automobile." You only need one word. 

As important as getting the definition of words correct is, I don't want to quibble over that here and I will not be ferreting out Greek definitions. There are two ways to show what Tim is saying is absolutely wrong and that the spirt/mind/heart is not the same thing as the soul.

The first way to show that Tim is wrong is by analyzing what he says in video 9 about spiritual death. Tim vehemently disagrees with the standard interpretation of God threatening death upon eating from the tree of knowledge to mean that Adam died spiritually. One cannot die spiritually except on the day of judgement says Tim. 

What Is Hell? Is It Real? Part 9 Answers In 2nd Esdras 23I

13:27 Your spirit can't die because you sin. Now, you can eternally set your position that you will be in hell, that you will die, yes, but that's not what the Bible does here. It's not playing these word games of dumb scholars that just don't get it. It doesn't do it. So, spirits don't die not unless they are consumed with eternal fire period. That is the only measure in scripture for so-called spiritual death. We do not die spiritually when we sin. Our spirits can't die. It can set it up sure but the Bible doesn't do that there and that is not what Yahuah is saying to Adam. They have rephrased Yahuah's words changing the Bible. It is a lie.

There are problems with that interpretation. First of all the Bible does say Adam would die in "the day" he ate from the tree."  

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

But it is only in Jubilees that we read an interpretation about dying in the day you eat from the tree.  Any story that comes from Jubilees is apocryphal nonsense that is rightfully ignored. That book is not and never will be scripture.  But even so Jubilees says this:

4:29 And at the close of the nineteenth jubilee, in the seventh week in the sixth year thereof, Adam died, and all his sons buried him in the land of his creation, and he was the first to be buried in the earth. 

30  And he lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: 'On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die.' For this reason he did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it.

Are we really supposed to believe that when God said you will die the day you eat from the tree he really meant you will die within a thousand years? What kind of threat or punishment is that? How does it apply to the rest of humanity who fell in Adam and are subject to the same penalty? The punishment happened then and there. Adam died. He became spiritually dead and separated from communion with God and so are we.

Secondly, the Bible says we are all spiritually dead in numerous passages. I will only list a few.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Obviously our soul is not dead as in lifeless. We are alive. But as the Bible says, we are dead in our sins while we live until Jesus Christ quickens us by the Holy Spirit. What exactly about us is dead? What did Jesus mean when he said let the dead bury their dead?

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

How can someone dead do anything? Because Jesus means they are spiritually dead and are walking after the things of this world rather than seeking first the kingdom of God and His righteousness. The spirt and mind are not the same as the soul. Tim says the soul is the life force. Everyone has a soul, a life force. 

If the soul is our life force and there is no unique spirit or mind then all men would be the same. A force is not personal. A force is an impersonal power like combustion which powers an engine which makes a car go. Not all cars and engines are the same. But combustion is a principle which never changes. In the case of humanity the life is in the blood.

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

The word translated life is the Hebrew word nepes which is translated elsewhere as soul. Obviously our blood is not our soul. But there is power in our blood which gives us life. There is a life force inside us that makes our heart beat, that powers our autonomic nervous system. Is the force that regulates our body the same as our mind, will, and emotions. Obviously not! Yet in Tim's system it would have to be because man is only body and soul.

What makes each man different is his unique spirit or mind or heart. It is clear that spirit, soul, mind, and heart are not the same thing which is why there are different words for them. In fact the Bible tells us that we were once dead in our sins and fulfilling the lusts of the body and the mind.

Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

The word in this verse translated mind is dianoia and not psyche which shows they are not the same thing. It's a shame that Tim did not discuss the meaning of dianoia and only focused on psyche. But it is only a Youtube video after all.  Maybe he will write a book on the subject?

Another word Tim did not discuss in his video is the Hebrew word translated heart or mind.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h3820/kjv/wlc/0-1/

This word, leb, translates as heart, mind, or understanding as in the following verses:

Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Exodus 7:14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go.

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Proverbs 4:23 Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.

From the context we can see that heart does not mean breath of life or nepes which is the only Hebrew word Tim analyzes. Going through the usage it is painfully obvious that nepes is not at all the same as leb. Leb always means something immaterial. Nepes can mean the immaterial soul but it can also mean the entire person.

Genesis 14:21 And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.

Exodus 16:16 This is the thing which the LORD hath commanded, Gather of it every man according to his eating, an omer for every man, according to the number of your persons; take ye every man for them which are in his tents.

The fact is Timothy Jay Schwab has not proven a single thing except that the words psyche and nepes can mean many things. But so what? Looking at the context of how these words are used shows that man does have a spirt as well as a soul and a body. The soul is what gives us life and the spirit is who we are. It is what makes us unique. It is our mind and heart. It is a lot of things. Can one harden the soul? Is the life force of man deceitful as Jeremiah says? No. That is the spirit. 

Tim's analysis of these two Greek and Hebrew words for soul is very poor. It's as bad as the first two videos where, instead of giving any context, he simply points to the word sleep and says, "See? It plainly says we go to sleep when we die." 

The second way to show Timothy Jay Schwab is completely wrong in denying that man has a spirit which is distinct from a soul is to look at the nature of Jesus Christ or Christology.

To really understand man we must first understand that we are created in the image of God and that God, in the Person of Jesus Christ who is the Son, took on human flesh. Properly understanding the incarnation is essential to understanding ourselves. Jesus, the divine Second Person of the Trinity, united Himself to human flesh, and had a human soul and a human mind. 

We must understand that while Christ is not a human Person but a Divine Person, that does not mean it is the divinity that empowers the body without a soul. That is akin to the heresy known as Apollinarianism which denies that Jesus had a rational human mind.

A Christological theory, according to which Christ had a human body and a human sensitive soul, but no human rational mind, the Divine Logos taking the place of this last.

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01615b.htm

According to Apollinaris Jesus had a body and soul but the Person of Christ, the Logos, took the place of the rational mind. 

Looking at this from the dichotomy that is Tim's perspective means that Apollinaris would have taught that Jesus did not have a human soul. Instead he would have taught the Jesus had a human body but the soul, the life force, was the Logos. Kind of like God using a body as a puppet. In both schemes Jesus would not have been fully human. Every man has a soul. Every man has a rational mind or spirit. The mind is not the soul.

The Church teaches in no uncertain terms that Jesus Christ was fully man without sin. That means he had a body, soul, and mind. This is a principle taught by Gregory of Nazianzus.

If anyone has put his trust in Him as a Man without a human mind, he is really bereft of mind, and quite unworthy of salvation. For that which He has not assumed He has not healed; but that which is united to His Godhead is also saved. If only half Adam fell, then that which Christ assumes and saves may be half also; but if the whole of his nature fell, it must be united to the whole nature of Him that was begotten, and so be saved as a whole. Let them not, then, begrudge us our complete salvation, or clothe the Saviour only with bones and nerves and the portraiture of humanity. 

https://earlychurchtexts.com/public/gregoryofnaz_critique_of_apolliniarianism.htm

Now, I know Tim won't give a fig for what the "Synagogue of Satan" has to say unless it aids his deficient worldview but Christology is very important. It is not enough to say Jesus is God. Many heretics have said the same thing. The church spent 700 years formulating its Christology against those heretics. Jesus Christ is the Logos who became man. He united Himself to a human body, soul, and mind or spirit all while retaining his divine nature and personhood. Jesus is not a human person he is a divine person with a human nature and a divine nature. This is why we can say Mary is the mother of God and God died on the cross.

This was just a brief analysis and rebuttal of Tim's doctrine of the soul and spirit. As we have seen Tim's discussion of the issue is as shallow as ever. He only discussed TWO WORDS in the whole Bible which can be translated a number of ways. He did not bother to discuss all the other words which can be translated mind, spirit, or heart or analyze the contexts in which they are used. If he did he would have to come to the conclusion that man is a tripartite being made of body, soul, and spirit/mind. Did the Pharaoh harden his soul? Of course not.

The God Culture: Dismissed: Where Do We Go When We Die? Part 2

In the previous article in this series critiquing Timothy Jay Schwab's doctrine of the afterlife I looked at the meaning of the Greek word translated sleep and death. We saw that the word means literal sleep or metaphorical death depending on the context. There are also two other words, one which means sleep and only sleep and one which means death and only death with no metaphorical meaning for either. His challenge to show that sleep does not mean literal sleep was well met and I showed how disingenuous Tim is in his usage of those words.  I also looked at the chambers mentioned in Enoch. Tim says there are three but Enoch says there are four. The spirits in the fourth chamber will never leave that place. 

In this article I will briefly analyze and dismiss a few of Tim's videos in this series which have either no pertinent arguments in them for the subject at hand or no arguments at all. Let's start this review off by dismissing video 5 in this series.

Did A Witch Raise The Prophet Samuel From The Dead? Where Do We Go? Part 5 Answers In 2nd Esdras 23E

Did a witch raise the prophet Samuel from the dead? Tim says no she brought up a demon. The point of this video is to reinforce Tim's teaching that the dead are asleep in chambers in the earth and no one can bring them up except God. Therefore, she brought up a demon. This video is done away with in two precise slices. First of all the context of the entire story does not warrant us to believe anything except that Samuel was indeed brought up from the dead and not an impostor demon. How? You might as well explain how Balaam's Ass spoke or how Jesus made the blind see using spit and dirt. The how does not concern us here. It is the what that matters and she clearly brought up Samuel from the dead.

The fact that King Saul thought Samuel could be brought up from the dead shows with certainty that the Israelites did not have a conception of death as being a state of unconscious and inactive sleep. Rather it shows that they thought the spirits of dead men were aware and active in the afterlife. Thus this narrative contradicts Enoch's stories of the four chambers for the dead and Tim's whole scheme that the dead are asleep and inactive in one of those chambers. It is one more clue among many that Enoch was not written by the Patriarch Enoch before the flood but by someone in the Second Temple period of the 2nd century.

Second of all the Book of Sirach or Ecclesiasticus says Samuel prophesied after his death. Tim believes that Sirach is scripture.

Did the Book of Sirach Find the Rivers From Eden?

4:23 It was the temple priests they exiled to Qumran who kept scripture and guess what? They kept Sirach as scripture as well and it was found there. It was canon from the only group qualified and ordained to say so.

If Sirach is scripture then that means Sirach 46:13-20 is scripture.

13 Samuel, the prophet of the Lord, beloved of his Lord, established a kingdom, and anointed princes over his people.

14 By the law of the Lord he judged the congregation, and the Lord had respect unto Jacob.

15 By his faithfulness he was found a true prophet, and by his word he was known to be faithful in vision.

16 He called upon the mighty Lord, when his enemies pressed upon him on every side, when he offered the sucking lamb.

17 And the Lord thundered from heaven, and with a great noise made his voice to be heard.

18 And he destroyed the rulers of the Tyrians, and all the princes of the Philistines.

19 And before his long sleep he made protestations in the sight of the Lord and his anointed, I have not taken any man's goods, so much as a shoe: and no man did accuse him.

20 And after his death he prophesied, and shewed the king his end, and lifted up his voice from the earth in prophecy, to blot out the wickedness of the people.

How did Samuel prophesy after he was dead? That is clearly a reference to the witch of Endor calling him up. This passage decisively destroys video 5. This passage is either Scripture or it is not. Even if Tim does as usual and claim this passage is corrupt that does not solve the problem at all. That would be an unprovable ad hoc fallacy.

Video 7 is easily disposed of as well.

Is There a Difference Between Soul & Spirit? Where Do We Go? Part 7 Answers In 2nd Esdras 23G

This video is a continuation of part 6 where Tim discusses the difference between the soul and the spirit. This video is supposed to tell us why so many in the Church believe man is a tripartite being made of body, soul, and spirit. It is effectively a sustained tirade against the Trinity. 

2:37 But why the obsession with the number three in theology in this day and age? I mean they teach us there is a Trinity you know, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Well that is a term never found in the Bible. It's just not there. Uh, don't care what you think whether Trinity or not Trinity there is no word Trinity in the Bible, period. It's just not there. 

Um, the Bible also does not ever equate the Holy Spirit as the other two. It's just not there either. Important, no doubt, and understanding their roles all three is what's really important not polarizing ridiculously stupid arguments. "Oh you're this, oh you're that label, oh you're that label," you go label whatever you want. Go do it in the corner, um, because that's where we put dunces on this channel. They will not be commenting. If you watch 22 Kinds of Creation we cover this psalm as creation in scripture was that of two not three. The Holy Spirit was there but we are given no role for Him and no equation to the other two. It's just not there. There are two creators Elohim a plural word meaning heavenly being and before the angels were created there were only two Elohim and that was the Father and the Son who did the creating.

Does Tim not understand that the way he talks he comes off as a polytheistic when he says that there are two gods, Father and Son? But then he will say that the Father and Son are equated which is modalist language. Yet Tim teaches they are separate. This is why a correct doctrine of who the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are is vital and important. God is three persons sharing one essence or nature. Anything less and you are going to go off into serious error and have a total misunderstanding of who God is and the function of each person.

Saying that the word Trinity is not in the Bible is a garbage argument against the Trinity. It is no argument at all. Tim also says that there is no universe because the word is not found in the Bible. 

30:30  Now the word universe is not even actually a Bible word or concept. Think about that. Yahuah is never referred to in scripture as the Lord of the universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H4dBijkqfM

Tim makes no coherent arguments against the Trinity and rails on and on about Pythagoras. It's like he is totally unaware of the vast body of writings from throughout Church history concerning the Trinity. He simply does not want deal with Hilary, Augustine, Tertullian, or the Cappadocians who all wrote extensively about the Trinity. Hint: THEY SAID NOTHING ABOUT PYTHAGORAS OR THE OCCULT! 

Tim literally says "they" teach these things because they want to open up their third eye. 

20:52 What we are seeing is the infusion of new age doctrine into these church doctrines. It is the new age community that separates the spirit from the soul. Again, we call that demon possession. They teach the mind is as powerful as the spirit or even more so as you can develop a third eye, even, where your soul can have the power, you know of a seer or whatever. like you know Josephus and the Pharisees in fact. Yeah, that is similar because Kabbalah, all the same. Like the Greek philosophers. Don't let your church inject new age garbage because that's what they're doing with this word soul.

This follows from a long section where Tim explains Hebrews 4:12 by saying the joints and marrow are the same thing.

16:14 This is firmly figurative language there's no doubting that. I mean it comes out and tells you that it is not intended to express a reality. But you don't walk around without your both joints and marrow do you? Uh, you won't be if you don't have them. In the function of joints and marrow ,uh, we're looking at bones here, okay? Joints are joining bones together and marrow runs through the bone so you need both. In other words the two are one in terms of bone. They function together. Without either good luck using your bones you will not.

However, the point of this scripture is to pinpoint things which are not truly separate and cannot be separated, really. I mean that's the point. You will not use your bones without both joints and marrow. You need both. You will not live eternally without your soul and spirit yet you do not need your current body do you? No you don't. We won't, that returns to dust. We receive new bodies but not a new soul and not a new spirit which are the same thing. They have to be.

Joints and marrow are NOT the same thing. They function together but they are NOT the same thing. They are able to be totally and really separated. Can your car run without gas? Of course not!  That does not make your gas and car the same thing. Someone left a rather insightful comment concerning this but Tim deleted it.

I usually like your videos however trying to say the inside of the bone is the same as the joint on the outside of the bone connecting other bones. One provides movement and one provides structure. They are not the same, but are part of the same system. The spirit binds the soul to the body, the spirit is the breath of life. We do not raincarnated, we die and go to Sheol and the spirit returns to the maker. John the Baptist had the spirit of Elijah, so if the soul is the  spirit then John the Baptist wasnt a new person, he would have been a reincarnated Elijah.

No, the spirit is not the same as the soul. John the Baptist had the soul of John the Baptist, but the spirit that brought life to Elijah also was imparted on John the Baptist to bring his body to life.

It's complete nonsense and since Tim cannot bring himself to deal with actual arguments for the Trinity it is proper to dismiss this video entirely and focus instead on video 6 and Tim's discussion of the soul and spirit. 

Maybe one day he will make a video where he actually does deal with arguments for the Trinity rather than setting up straw men. Literally no Christian believes in the Trinity because of occult numerology. Such nonsense betrays a total ignorance of Christian theology and history. 

If Tim really cared to understand the Trinity he would read the Cappadocians and their treatises against the Arians and the Eunomians because it is their views of the Trinity which were adopted as dogma at the 2nd Council of Nicea. Not long after the Western Church inserted the Filioque into the confession. Historically this is what led to the schism between the church East and West. I am quite sure Tim knows nothing of any of that history because he sure does not understand even the basics of Trinitarian doctrine especially as it relates to the Person of Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Likewise video 8 can also be scrapped for the same reasons. Video 8 is Tim's answer as to why the Church does not believe in soul sleep as he does. It's all because the Church incorporated the Egyptian Book of the Dead into their doctrines.

Egyptian Book of the Dead. Origin of Church Doctrine on Judgment? Part 8 Answers In 2nd Esdras 23H

13:25 But let's go to the source, their source, the Egyptian Book of the Dead to see what it says. Let's be clear because some get easily confused or so they wish to be in ignorance at times in order to make accusation of course. Uh, you know we teach the Bible and this is the opposite but we cover this because most churches today are teaching this doctrine right out of the Egyptian Book of the Dead and not from the Bible. They're missing it completely. So, for anyone wishing to show disgust by all means we certainly will. But how about you make sure you get our position right and realize that position is not the opposite because we get accused every time we do a video like this in that manner.

15:10 There are several ways you can read this Egyptian Book of the Dead. One is by E.A. Wallis Budge. Uh, he has put out a lot of different occult writings, indeed, uh he just loves them. But we're going to stick to a paraphrase for the sake of time since this is a YouTube video. Accounts differ in some and we're not going to cover "well this one says, but this one says, but this one says" who cares? Generally they are in agreement and all serve as the origin of this church doctrine. That's our point. Uh, which certainly does not come from the Bible and that's what we're getting at. We're going to use worldhistory.com, The Egyptian Afterlife

There are a number of problems in these two excerpts from this video. First of all Tim says those who criticize him need to get his position right. That is laughable because this entire video is him getting the position of the Catholic Church wrong!  In fact he does not once cite any official Catholic doctrine. Instead he cites from an internet article ABOUT the Egyptian Book of the Dead rather than FROM the Egyptian Book of the Dead. That means he is not even familiar with the book from which he claims the Church gets its doctrine of the afterlife. 

Tell us Tim, how the heck would the contents of this book somehow slip into the Church's teaching? He NEVER TELLS US!! He just makes accusation after unsubstantiated accusation. Does he not know that the Egyptian book of the Dead was WRITTEN IN HIEROGLYPHICS!! Nobody knew how to read Egyptian until the discovery of the Rosetta Stone in 1799! So, there is no way possible this unreadable text could have been read by any Christian and incorporated into Christian doctrine. Is Tim really that much of a moron or does he think his audience is too stupid to understand that?

The existence of the Book of the Dead was known as early as the Middle Ages, well before its contents could be understood. Since it was found in tombs, it was evidently a document of a religious nature, and this led to the widespread but mistaken belief that the Book of the Dead was the equivalent of a Bible or Qur'an

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_the_Dead

Everything in this video is just so blatantly false there is no proper way to deal with it except to throw it in the garbage. How can this man claim to have gone to seminary and been a minister for over 30 years and not know why Christians believe the things they do? This nonsense about the occult creeping into the Church and influencing her doctrines in any way is provably false if one would take the time to read the writings of the Church Fathers and especially the dogmatic definitions of the ecumenical councils. I have done this and I cannot pour years of study into one article. It is not possible. Tim needs to take his head out of the Dead Sea Scrolls and actually learn Christian doctrine. There is 2000 years of it.

The reason the Church believes that after death one is conscious and experiences either torments or joys is because the Bible teaches that. Listen to what Paul says to the Philippians.

Philippians 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.

23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.

It's notable that Tim does not deal with these verses at all. Paul says he desires to depart this life and be with Christ. What sense does it make, what hope is there, if what Paul really means is that he desires to die and fall asleep in a subterranean chamber somewhere below the Philippines? How is falling asleep and being unconscious far better than being alive and aware? How is to die and fall into an unconscious sleep gain?

43:19 We also locate the Garden of Eden in the Philippines, uh, below in the earth not up here on the surface.

1:21:34 Then there is the Garden of Eden that houses Yahuah's Holy of Holies on earth. Of course we didn't cover all of the many scriptures in the Garden of Eden there are tons but you know those. Um, but yes that is inside the earth the Hebrew word again is an enclosed garden. It's always been inside the earth and it never moved nor did the tree of life that's called kabbalah that's not bible. The bible says it's still there and that we'll have access to it on the after the day of judgment basically. And why Paul says when we die we are absent the body but in his presence. Why? How could that be? Well, because the chamber for the righteous is obviously next to the Garden of Eden. And what's in the Garden of Eden? The Holy of Holies of Yahuah on earth. Ha! Still in His presence. Exactly!

What Is Hell? Is It Real? Part 9 Answers In 2nd Esdras 23I

It's stupid beyond belief. Tim's doctrine of the afterlife offers NO HOPE to anyone. Sure, we will wake up after so many years to the final judgement and be with Jesus forever but so what? The hope we have is not that we will fall asleep at death for thousands or hundred of years but that, as Paul says, when we depart this life we shall be received into the very presence of Jesus Christ and live with him forever. It's as if Tim does not realize the great promise of the Gospel which is to be united to Jesus Christ (Col 1:27; 1 Cor 3:16, 6:17, 19; 2 Peter 1:4; John 14:23, 17:22; Gal 2:19). Jesus Himself prays that the saints will be with Him in Heaven to behold his glory.

John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Truly to die is to gain eternity with Jesus Christ to whom we are united, not to sleep in some underground chamber next to the Philippines.