Timothy Jay Schwab who is The God Culture is, by every measure, an anti-trinitarian heretic. He does not believe in or teach the doctrine that God is three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) sharing one essence. Tim's own words proving he denies the doctrine of the Trinity have been thoroughly documented on this blog. Tim claims Elohim is only two, the Father and the Son. The Holy Spirit is not Elohim but is likely a creation relegated to Earth.
Yet, Tim continues to insist he is not anti-trinitarian.
2. Anti-Trinitarian Claim
The blogger asserts:
“He teaches the Holy Spirit is not God, is not eternal, and is likely a creature.”🧠 Assessment: This misrepresents The God Culture's statements in context. We’ve repeatedly clarified that we have not denied the roles of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit — we’ve even said they are Eternal, while clarifying definitions and exploring historical and Biblical interpretations. These comments are taken out of context and misused to label our position in a way that triggers theological condemnation (slander under religious discrimination).
https://thegodculturephilippines.com/the-accuser-strikes-again----but-the-truth-still-stands/
Stating that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have distinct roles is not to confess the doctrine of the Trinity Stating that all three are eternal is also not specifically Trinitarian. This is especially the case as regards the Holy Spirit. Tim has redefined what it means for Him to be eternal.
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6:48 When you see the word eternal that does not mean they don't have a beginning understand that as well our spirits are eternal, right? But most certainly have a beginning. We were created, right? Angels are eternal but they have a creation point we're actually gonna cover that very clearly on the first day. Uh, it's just not there uh, you know so trying to take, again, a word, uh, out of its own definition, eternal doesn't mean they've lived forever it means they will live forever, umm it does not mean they don't have a beginning. So, they see that word eternal, uh, used in terms of the Ruach and then they assume Oh that means the Holy Spirt is also from before creation, right? Well actually no. No, it doesn't mean that and it doesn't say that.
Can you hear what Tim is saying? He is saying the Holy Spirit, the Ruach Elohim, is a CREATION! He had a beginning. He is not eternal God. That is fundamentally anti-trinitarian and contradicts Tim's denial that he is not an anti-trinitarian.
Recently Tim reconfirmed his commitment to being anti-trinitarian.
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@Gameow-i2v Brother, I hope you can help me with something that has been weighing on my mind for quite some time. It’s about Yahua and Yahusha, the Father and the Son. My question is whether they are to be understood as one being or as separate entities. This topic often troubles me, and I’d like to gain more clarity on their relationship and nature. Your insights would be greatly appreciated.
@TheGodCulture As Yahusha was not schizophrenia, he spoke to the Father as a separate being in Heaven whole He was on Earth. Therefore, though they function as one, they are 2. Watch Who Is Elohim? Yah Bless.
In this exchange Tim says very explicitly the Father and the Son operate as two. There is no mention of the Holy Spirit. Now, Tim might wiggle his way out of this by saying the commenter did not ask about the Holy Spirit. However, Tim says to watch his video "Who is Elohim?" which is full of statements denying the divinity of the Holy Spirit.
Restoring Creation: Part 12: Who Is Elohim? Gen. 1:1 Understood. First Day. 1:39 Well, who then are the Elohim of Genesis 1:1 before the angels were even created? Yes they are called Elohim as well because Elohim is a general term for heavenly being. However, there are no other heavenly beings there is two here actually. There's another being on earth, uh, and there you go, that's it, at creation in the very beginning.
18:59 But who is Elohim? Well, the word is plural at least two in the Hebrew, the "im" on the end makes it plural. Plural means not one but two.
37:37 So, in the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. That Elohim is two. The Father and the Son. Again, the Holy Spirit's there but there's no Scripture that ever attributes the Holy Spirit as a creator. It's just not there. You can try to add it. You can try to say, you know, it's equated in some context somewhere. That's fine go ahead and do that but we don't. We just don't placate those kinds of thinkings. We, we go with what the Bible says. So, that's not His role it just isn't in scripture. If it was His role then show us the Scripture. Well you won't because it's not there.
39:05 But here basically the word Elohim is a generic term for heavenly being. But again, the only beings in heaven at the tome of Genesis 1:1 are the Father and the Son. The Holy Spirit is hovering on the waters. He's on earth which is where he is throughout Scripture. His role is on earth.
51:53 So, Yahusha, the Son, is part of Elohim which is plural for two at creation, the Father and the Son. That is the only who qualify as creators. In the beginning Elohim created, right? Again we'll cover this more but the Holy Spirit is not known as Elohim nor a Creator. It's just not there. He is incredibly important and physically present at creation indeed not in heaven but on Earth where he is found throughout scripture in the Old and New Testaments alike but still that doesn't make him what the Bible never calls Him. He is not the Elohim of Creation in the sense of creating. He just doesn't do that that the text says at all. In the beginning Elohim created does not include Him as such though He is present indeed. We aren't going to force something this important because of, well, illiterate ridicule using an anti-trinitarian label or whatever. Who cares? Which also is a word that, well, never exists in scripture. Oh how about that? Talk about the dumbest of false paradigms. Such inept fools don't even realize the words they use aren't even in the Bible yet they beat people over the head for not using their unbiblical words and doctrines for that matter. Now that's pretty dumb. Wow.
Those are all anti-trinitarian statements denying the Holy Spirit is Elohim or God. A more comprehensive list of quotes from Tim denying the Godhood of the Holy Spirit, and thus the Trinity, can be read here.
Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Iglesia Ni Cristo, and many other groups all confess their belief in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. That does not make them Trinitarian. They all deny that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirt are three persons sharing one essence. So does Tim. His statements are on record.
Tim says labelling him anti-trinitarian:
triggers theological condemnation (slander under religious discrimination).
Which is ridiculous. First of all it's not slander to call Tim anti-trinitarian when the label is a theological assessment based on his own public teachings. It is not a malicious falsehood. Second of all the Trinity is a fundamental Christian doctrine. Those who do not confess it are not Christians and deserve to be condemned. Calling out heresy protects the faith. It steers people clear of false teachers such as Timothy Jay Schwab who lies far outside the faith of the Nicene Creed. Tim is rightly condemned for denying this essential doctrine.
The proper thing for Tim to do is repent of his heresy. But he is not going to do that. Therefore the only thing for him to do is to own up to his beliefs. For him to deny being anti-trinitarian while spouting anti-trinitarian teaching is illogical. It's the same as when he says he is not a flat-farther in a video where he teaches the earth is flat.
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5:57 Observance tells us the same. we know this with our eyes but we're told to ignore our eyes our scientific observation and accept their spinning ball in faith which is never something they've ever proven. You've never seen the earth move but you see the sun moon and stars move daily. Only in Babylonian style or mystery basically Babylon religion does the sun become the center of the solar system. Yes, they're even carvings on the walls uh in Babylon and Syria that demonstrate that with the nine planets, a solar system. That's their religion that's a religious view it's not science no one has ever seen such.
1:20:00 No, we are not flat earthers just as we do not call ourselves the very negative term in the bible of Christian. No thank you.
As ever with Tim he prefers deflection over transparency. He teaches a doctrine that is very controversial and then says he doesn't teach it. It's the same dishonesty we have come to except from Timothy Jay Schwab who is The God Culture who is 100% an anti-trinitarian.
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