The God Culture: The Zen Garcia Interview

If there is anyone who shares the same spirit as Timothy Jay Schwab of The God Culture it has to to be Zen Garcia. I admit that I don't know anything about this guy but if this interview is any measurement to judge with then I have been spared. Zen thinks Polaris is where the throne of God is, thinks the earth is hollow, and has a lot of other beliefs that would fit snug-as-a-bug-in-a-rug on Coast-to-Coast-AM. Recently he did an interview with Timothy Jay Schwab.

The Mystery of Solomon's Gold - TThe God Culture Channel and Zen Garcia 

Now, the thing about this video is that apparently it was streaming but then it got copyrighted during the stream and it was also broadcast on a radio station called Revolution Radio at the same time. The result is that we do not see Tim's fat bespectacled face or any of his slides. But I won't say much about that here. We want to get to the meat. 

This interview is leagues better than the Pounders interview. It's longer, it's more in-depth, and the host doesn't dip out to give Tim the floor. Zen interacts with Tim and sounds very excited. That's a good thing. I want to hear Timothy Jay Schwab get interviewed by people who care. I don't think Pounders cared much. 

So, the real meat of the interview comes in at the middle of the second half. Tim has run through his entire worldview and Zen Garcia asks the following:

1:18:25:  Zen: A question with regard to, uh, the the islands there because, um, located in Cambodia where you have the the very ancient culture and the extravagant remnants of, you know? So, these, um, what's the name of that city, um?

Tim: I know what you're talking about but I can't remember the name. 

Zen: Yeah, I can't, it escapes me. My children went and visited there but anyways, I was wondering are there structures like that or are there you know ancient relics also found in the Philippines, uh, that most people don't know about. And also wanted to ask, um, as far as the ancient traditions, the mythologies of the native peoples there, if you know about any of that and, uh, is their truth preserved 

Like Pounders Zen is asking a great question. He is asking is there archeology and mythology to prove Tim's claim.  The city they are thinking of is Angkor Wat and the culture is the Khmer Empire. I have actually been there.

Tim's answer is so bad but I have to reprint it here in full.

1:19:27:  The major challenge in this journey was that, um, the actual record of the Filipinos themselves who, by the way, when the Spanish came here Padre Torrino in fact says that in the areas that he visited in the Philippines 100% were literate. They could read and they could write, and they were reading something, they were writing something, and they were doing it in their language, uh, in, uh, the, the, uh actual written language is called Baybayin and it's actually very similar to Hebrew in the letters and even some of the the shapes of the letters are kind of fascinating. But that's not something we can really prove we're not linguists we can't go that far. But what we can say is they were reading something. They were writing something. They had a history. That's what people read and write, right? And yet it's all gone the Spanish wiped it all out 100% of it is gone. The oldest document we have in the Philippines, uh, is from 1640 and it's it's an epic poem. Um, and, and then prior to that there is a copper plate, uh, from about 800 to 1000 A.D which is a legal contract which shows you how sophisticated these people were. They not only wrote a legal contract they did it on copper.  How about that? 

However now, but, when Magellan came he said, he asked the Filipinos, you know, who is your god and and what is your worship? Now, this is what Filipinos answered him. They said we have no other worship, this is in Pigafetta's journal, um, recorded by the Spanish, this isn't some fiction, this is historic fact. We have no other worship but to raise our hands to heaven and our face to the sky and we cry out to our Abba. 

Zen: Wow! That's awesome. 

Tim:  Abba? Wow amazing! And then you know so right, right from uh, the words of Messiah in the Garden of Gethsemane uses it twice as well.

Um, you have this name and then some will say oh well you know but but the Muslims came there yeah they did in the gold rush that's true. However, the muslims have 99 names of Allah and not a single one includes the word Abba. That concept is not Muslim. There is something else to it and it's because of their connection with king Solomon the Queen of Sheba came. She, she did what? She gave an offering to the temple just like Adam gave his offering the day after his exile in the same offering at that and the same with the three kings who came two years after Messiah was born that's why it took them two years they had to come all the way from the Philippines. And because they had to go around Africa the Red Sea port was broken up at that time and so and they brought the same gifts gold frankincense and myrrh and laid them at the feet of Messiah.

Look at that wall of text! Timothy Jay Schwab cannot answer a straightforward question with a straightforward answer. Zen asks for archeological and mythological proof and Tim gives NONE! He starts talking about Baybyain and admits he is not sure about whether or not it is Hebrew in origin because, get this, HE IS NOT A LINGUIST!!  Can he undercut his case for residual ancient Hebrew being in the Philippines any more? He just admitted that he does not know what he is talking about because he is not a linguist!

Next he mentions that the Filipinos told Magellan they worshipped Abba. Now, if Tim knew anything he would know that the Nestorians made it all the way to China and likely to the Philippines.  I have written about this.

According to Melendres Filipinos accepted the Gospel very readily and not by force. This was because they recognized the God of the Spaniards due to remnants of heretic Nestorian Christians.

Nestorian Mongols believed that the 'Heavenly Father' existed beyond the sky and looked down from the heavens. Nestorian missionaries, on the other hand, carried the name of God Abba or Heavenly Father wherever they proclaimed their doctrines and faith. And as the people of Masaua called their God Abba, it was unlikely that Abba was just an idol or a pagan god. We can therefore draw the conclusion that Rajah Culambo, his brother Rajah Siagu, and Rajah Humabon and their respective kingdoms were remnants of the heretic Nestorian Christians. This was why the Culambo brothers paid full attention and with reverence to the Cross during the First Mass in Masaua. And in Cebu, Rajah Human did not resist Magellan's preaching, and even his people showed their hunger for the Word as the listed to Magellan teach the basic doctrines of Christianity. Then, without hesitation, the Cebuano king immediately submitted to Magellan's baptism.

p. 161

https://philippinefails.blogspot.com/2021/03/book-review-my-countrys-godly-heritage.html 

Tim offers no mythological stories about the Jews and the Queen of Sheba and Solomon or even a myth about the 3 wiseman. Nor does Tim discuss archeology which is what Zen originally asked about. Never forget that Tim has already admitted there is no archeology in the Philippines to prove his claims.

Many seek this architecture in demand to prove this narrative and they are stuck in a false paradigm. There is none to be expected nor has any other nation on earth produced such nor will they.

Ancient Ophir is never described as having temples at all whether alone ones of gold, it is never recored to have great infrastructure in any sense just a mega-abundance of resources. The humble lifestyle of the Filipino even fits the oath of a Rechabite as Farrisol said.
pg. 128-129

https://philippinefails.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-god-culture-search-for-king.html 

Of course Tim could never say that live on air because that does not garner likes or sell books. I imagine Zen would have found it odd if Tim had admitted he has no archeological proof for his claims.

One final thing I want to note is that both Zen and Tim lament censorship by YouTube. They go on about how truth is being covered up. Well, I posted a rational, sane comment on this video and it was deleted. 

The God Culture is not a group you want to be promoting. Their books and videos are so full of historical and theological errors it is rather shocking. They have never been peer reviewed which means they have never allowed real scholars who know the things they write about take a peek at their research and critique it which is really a standard practice. I have gone in depth with, as of now, 61 articles eviscerating Timothy Jay Schwab's theories and in turn he has only lashed out in anger rather than correct himself. The man simply cannot stand criticism of any kind. See here: https://thegodculturephilippines.blogspot.com

Tell me who is censoring who? I cannot stand these kind of hypocrites who ramble on about censorship, claim they are for freedom of speech, and then attempt to censor those who disagree with them. Disgusting. And these people are Americans!

Like I said there is much more in this video. Maybe I will save it for a rainy day. I just want to get the meat across. In two recent interviews where Timothy Jay Schwab has been asked for archeological evidence to prove his claims about the Philippines he has been unable to provide any. That is quite damning to his case for the Philippines no one can disprove. 

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