The God Culture: The Holy Spirit Challenge

In part 12 of The God Culture's Restoring Creation series Timothy Jay Schwab issued a challenge to show him a single verse saying that the Holy Spirit is a creator. 

Restoring Creation: Part 12: Who Is Elohim? Gen. 1:1 Understood. First Day.

37:36 So, in the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the Earth. That Elohim is two, the father and the Son. Again, Holy Spirit's there but there's no scripture that ever attributes the Holy Spirit as a Creator. It's just not there. You can try to add it. You can try to say, you know, it's equated in some context somewhere. That's fine go ahead and do that but we don't, uh, we just don't placate those kinds of thinkings. We, we go with what the Bible says. Uh, so that's not his role. It just isn't, uh, in scripture. Uh, if it was His role then show us the scripture. Well you won't because it's not there.

Challenge met and accepted. Here is one verse that tells us God created the host of the Heavens by his Spirit.


The word translated breath is Ruach. That means this is the Holy Spirit. 


https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/psa/33/6/t_conc_511006

End of story. But likely not because Tim is a hard hearted heretic who has evasions for everything even going so far as to say that the Holy Spirt is not actually eternal meaning without beginning.

Restoring Creation: Part 9: Is Darkness Evil? Or Good?

6:48 When you see the word eternal that does not mean they don't have a beginning understand that as well our spirits are eternal, right? But most certainly have a beginning. We were created, right? Angels are eternal but they have a creation point we're actually gonna cover that very clearly on the first day. Uh, it's just not there uh, you know so trying to take, again, a word, uh, out of its own definition, eternal doesn't mean they've lived forever it means they will live forever, umm it does not mean they don't have a beginning. So, they see that word eternal, uh, used in terms of the Ruach and then they assume Oh that means the Holy Spirt is also from before creation, right? Well actually no. No, it doesn't mean that and it doesn't say that.    

Can you hear what Tim is saying? He is saying the Holy Spirit, the Ruach Elohim, is a CREATION! He had a beginning. He is not eternal God. This is a direct response to a video I made contrasting Tim's doctrine that the Holy Spirt is not without beginning to what the Bible says in Hebrews 9:14.  

Contrary to this blasphemous teaching which denies the Holy Spirit is without beginning the Greek word translated eternal means exactly that!

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g166/kjv/tr/0-1/

How will Tim get out of this one? We shall see in full in his upcoming series about the Holy Spirit. 

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